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I guess my 5 star bounty for the fastest Maso in the first 2 months will be the only (and best!) reward, then.

Totally agree. So Ryme, a 20+ bracket? :D Nope. My official stance is that maso is discouraged. Nobody should ever do it. But, because of the range of options, it's mathematically possible to pick the worst of everything, and I'm not going out of my way to block ...

Well, maso's 22 points. A 20+ would keep the bracket scheme and allow for a little juggling of what minor relief people were willing to take. Of course, I'm pretty sure naturally hyper would beat out keeping your sidekick.

15+? Am I eligible? :P Actually, we should have another pair of leaderboards for 20+. Rawr. There should be a Maso leaderboard. It seems *slightly* unfair that those doing Maso should be considered alongside those doing 15/16 point runs. My limits are set at 16 points, and i'm ...

... has the fastest 15+ run on the November 26th leaderboards will receive 5 silver stars, probably from one of my alts since I'll still be doing Maso runs on my main. Perhaps that will be a bit of an incentive for the people doing easier runs to at least try out one of the tougher combinations, ...

Im going natty first run, because I dont see myself perming many natty skills at first, and I want to get starfish regeneration and their quadrant, then I will proceed with several gadgeteer and psion runs (all maso of course).

... log a blue chip and an icicle (best weapon I had, damage-wise :() Despite my lack of IoTMs, it's been really easy so far. Maybe I should have went Maso!

Just curious, but you mentioned those several configurations (I mean the gold, maso, champion, etc.) and before that mentioned a more flexible system that was basically a checkbox list of the restrictions you wanted. Are those both going to be put in, with the ...

... (although, you could invent something not only copied from KoL - which I stopped playing cause of huge complexity and boredom). Btw, name "maso" is really weird for me, I get what it should mean, but this particular abbreviation means "meat" in my language and it just doesn't ...

... who coffee and gumball it at all. Heck, even mister teas are available at level 5, which should be easy to get to in a day unless you are on a maso run (and even then). For difficult things to do in this game, I would enjoy seeing who could be the first to retcon twice in one day with limited/no ...

... run. Basic: Buffs restricted until after the "give me a break" point. Classic, Champion, Silver, Gold, Temperant, Grimdark, Maso: No buffs until the run ends or you bail on the difficulty. I support this too. Buffs are ev0l. Moar shoes!!!!! Well, I'm not sure how strongly ...

... run. Basic: Buffs restricted until after the "give me a break" point. Classic, Champion, Silver, Gold, Temperant, Grimdark, Maso: No buffs until the run ends or you bail on the difficulty.

question: assuming we implement this trainee-maso scale, what would the first run count as? Since there are no pulls, no skills, and a limited sidekick (im assuming this means re-earning a permanent sidekick as opposed to no permanent sidekick) ...

question: assuming we implement this trainee-maso scale, what would the first run count as? Since there are no pulls, no skills, and a limited sidekick (im assuming this means re-earning a permanent sidekick as opposed to no permanent sidekick) ...

yup. Restaurant/cafe where I went to college had spicy fries that went: mild, medium, hot, maso. Guess I've assumed everyone else went to my college ... or at least knew that abbreviation.

I'm presuming that "Maso" is short for Masochist.

Why would the hardest path be called "Maso"? Even google offers no clues as to the significance of that word.

... Okay, I understand no pulls, but what's the difference between all items, all items plus break, max pulls, and some pulls? I don't really think Maso would be an enjoyable type of run to play, but I suspect some people out there will want to do it Are you kidding? I think it sounds awesome. A ...

Maso looks pretty interesting to me, actually. Especially if it will have its own leaderboard for shortest amount of time spent in the run. It's the kind of run that will be a bitch for anyone, old or new. And, of course, I want to be able to say I did it.

... 12 points Temperant (no pulls, all skills, no food, full sidekick) 15 points Grimdark (no pulls, no skills, all food, limited sidekick) 17 points Maso (no pulls, no skills, no food, limited sidekick) 22 points, as tough as it gets Basic is essentially KoL's softcore. Classic takes away the ronin ...