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TeKRunneR

Oh, if only there were a way to change class in-run!

Hannahmaus

I bit the bullet and went back into maso. Thing is, first 2 attempts to retcon just reset the retcon form somehow, so by the 3rd attempt I was getting frustrated and failed to set my class! I've always been a gadgeteer since I started and now ...

Corrupt Shadow

Okay, I gave up on maso... too frickin' hard. Not worth it without some sort of award for doing it. And since Ryme said that's not happening, neither are my maso runs. Sorry.

Cristiona

"You people"... hmph!

Harry Dresden

In consideration of how long Maso takes, and how little you people seem inclined to do it, I've lowered the number of runs to 3.

Ugh, just finishing up my third as well. I am certainly not built for speed but Maso keeps me outta trouble at home for playing too much so I may still have a go. And really, what the hell else am I doing?

Since I started my 4th consecutive maso run just before your contest start day, you'd want me to run 5 more? Thanks, but no thanks

seventhcross

Curse you Harry! I just finished my first run and it took me like 15 days to complete... bleh, so many others who can do them so much faster.... I shall try though.

Nommy

Psha optimization. It's all about having fun anyway. :3

Also, I find the rules of this contest discriminatory.

Lxndr

Looking forward to that!
I'm doing 3 more Maso runs... at 25 days apiece, it'll be March before I'm in a "regular" run. Hopefully by then I'll be able to play with both my Digitizer and my Improved Recyclonizer.

Corrupt Shadow

I don't optimize... I just play. Which is why I will most likely NOT win.

Hannahmaus

I did 2 Masos back to back when retcon came out, then switched the no-skill setting to "Permed skills remembered, skill points only for class skills, 2 points". Seriously thinking of going for this, just dubious as I am very slow because I don't do stuff with FT and optimising and all the ...

Corrupt Shadow

You gave up already?!

Cristiona

Pfft. Screw maso.

Corrupt Shadow

I won't win; don't worry. Cris'll beat me... as will others, I'm sure.

Harry Dresden

That I'll allow. A day or two isn't going to really set you so far ahead of the competition that you'll automatically win.

EDIT: Assuming there even is any competition.

Corrupt Shadow

Aw, I started a day or two ago!

Harry Dresden

In honor of Nommy's hardcore Masoness, I have decided to start up a new contest/bounty. This is going to be a long-term thing, so don't be afraid to join in if you don't find this thread for a while. Goal: Complete 3 straight Maso runs. ...

I can assure you that your chips are in the DB. I thought it would display them while in maso, and I'll look into why it's not, but they're safely stored for later retrieval.

Lxndr

My chips are missing from deep storage. I'm in a Maso run, and can see my items (cannot access them, but can at least see what I'm unable to access). Sadly, I cannot see how many chips I once had. Here's a screenshot:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2cybtlv

Satan

... let you use it until you're in a run with pulls. I think that's the death knell for that argument. Almost like someone in the middle of a 23+ day maso run had asked for that very thing to be allowed. If you'll remember, I simply asked that if not in a no pulls run, atleast in limited pulls. Not ...

malk-a-mite

Harry Dresden wrote:And as an addendum, even after you pull those free stars and buy the IOTM.......it won't let you use it until you're in a run with pulls. I think that's the death knell for that argument.

Almost like someone in the middle of a 23+ day maso run had asked for that very thing to be allowed.

Harry Dresden wrote:I think silver stars are only a free pull in Maso/No Pulls, as a way to allow people to still get the IOTM if they're in a long run.

Truth!

Harry Dresden

I think silver stars are only a free pull in Maso/No Pulls, as a way to allow people to still get the IOTM if they're in a long run.

TeKRunneR

Maso is pretty brutal, and I can understand people not wanting to do such runs (I'm not sure I'll ever do another one myself, really). Anyway, I voted for speed contests, but it seems like if it's meant to be a recurring thing, ...

Strlikecrazy

... not many people are going to enter unless these forums get more traffic. My own retcon contest (ending soon!) has had a total of 3 people submit Maso times. Maybe that is because Valera's run was so fast no one could beat her until Tek did, but no one was posting before her either. That's cause ...

Harry Dresden

... not many people are going to enter unless these forums get more traffic. My own retcon contest (ending soon!) has had a total of 3 people submit Maso times. Maybe that is because Valera's run was so fast no one could beat her until Tek did, but no one was posting before her either.

Mana Yachanichu

... was a lot of fun and yadda yadda. So I came back, saw how much cool stuff had been added, and here I am. Last week I started what I intend to be 4 maso runs, one for each class, but who knows. One other thing - I found KoL through TVTropes, I notice that TH doesn't appear to have an entry there. ...

Harry Dresden

I have to admit I'm very impressed. Great job, TeK.

For the record, with 17 days left, that is the fastest published Maso run. The fastest 15+ mettle run at this point is also TeKRunneR with 4d 38h 27m.

Satan

... the start I don't /want/ to do these runs. I don't think there's any point to them in and of themselves. I'm going to do one after the current maso run, because you all think it's so difficult. I'm simply going to prove that's not true. I'll let you all know when I begin farming for this run, ...

blackmatter615

... and this isnt even going into IoTM gear like flouncing and red eye mind tricks. Its not just squid discs+rng. It has more planning involved than a maso run imo.

Cristiona

Oh! Oh! Oh! I get to say it!

Ahem.

The leaderboards are not the game.

Woohoo! Oh! And while I'm at it: This makes maso easier!

... but aren't built to reward *every* style in which people will do runs. For instance, if you want to compete in the highest bracket, doing Maso simply is NOT going to be competitive. This doesn't mean Maso needs its own board. It means if you're doing Maso, it's because you want to do Maso. ...

NardoLoopa

... The trouble with the current structure is that there isn't a way to compete between people with similar restrictions. The notable exception being Maso (which has no leaderboard). The main difficulty here is the influence of pull runs vs non-pull runs. Items make such a big difference it biases ...

Harry Dresden

I think a board based on the last 60 days would be sufficient. A person can do 3 Maso runs in that time, and 12+ <15 mettle runs in that time. And as people get more skill points from prior runs, even the >15 mettle runs will be accomplished in 3-4 days I think. ...

Corrupt Shadow

My huge, current mistake: Maso Psion run... I DO NOT advise this AT ALL.

Harry Dresden

... TekRunner with 4 days (38h 27m). I don't like that the leaderboards sort by days rather than total time, but I'll work with what's given. Fastest Maso is still Valera with 56h 3m 50s. I have plans to beat that, but hopefully someone else is also trying to do so. Also, thought I had posted this ...

Harry Dresden

So far, Valera is the only one who has posted a Maso run. So the time to beat is 56h 3m 50s.

For the regular 15+ mettle run, the current best is 38h 27m 50s.

13 days
56h 3m 50s
22 mettle

Unleash the inner Maso

Strlikecrazy

Totally agree. So Ryme, a 20+ bracket? :D Nope. My official stance is that maso is discouraged. Nobody should ever do it. But, because of the range of options, it's mathematically possible to pick the worst of everything, and I'm not going out of my way to block ...

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