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MagiNinjA

If you really want to gun for the glorious XP board that everyone admires and praises, then sure.

Otherwise, I find no point.

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That's really stupid to say, considering Cris tested it.

I don't think he's saying that it's only 30-70, but rather, it's better to be in that range for these quests.

Not to mention that powerlevellers DON'T make up the majority of the playerbase, I'm quite sure.

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In game incentives are pretty much ruled out already for several reasons.

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The loot is a pretty integral part of the epeen aspect of it.

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Well, this was supposed to be for something analogous to skill planning. There IS another ascension thread roaming around.

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True and False. For reasons that MagiNinjA cannot go into.

TNP thinks Strlikecrazy is epoc fail.

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All of this belongs in the creative ideas thread.

Also, needs less numbers.

Sigh. No merge. D:

I think more general talismans are required rather than starter talismans, definitely as of right now.

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Yeah, they would be (in response to Olaf). But, er, they don't have any negative bonuses. Those look slightly imbalanced without them. I wouldn't mind negatives that got worse as you levelled, though, cause of the positives. To clear it up, he's saying 4 new class talismans, one per class, and the t...

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False. He's as docile as a deer.

TNP thinks Satan is fail. Satan can't answer this for obvious reasons.

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What about negative bonuses?

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I've thought about this HE thing for a bit and there are some problems. First off, is it unbalanced to have it permable? I've been both told (in this thread) that perming it is overpowering AND that since it's achieved at level 4, I can wait a bit and it shouldn't have much effect. Contradictions. O...

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I'll agree with this, however, it feels like a shortcoming without something like that to perm.

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Okay, that was sort of an idiotic looking response. The bigger point I was trying to make this whole time is that making everything analogous to KoL is not the greatest idea in the world.

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I don't get why we're making comparisons to KoL. Especially with fairly insignificant items.

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Well, maybe not to that effect, but I guess I find it odd that if you're only going without it for a couple levels, why not be able to perm it and not deal with it later? That quest could be used as another reward vector too.

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So...ascending shouldn't help later ascensions besides skills? I find this very disheartening. Skills as a whole aren't really as effective as opposed to KoL's skills, where something like Pastamancery would cut down your run by maybe a day. Maybe less, but it was definitely dramatic. Here, no skill...

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I don't know if I really feel like it's a reward if it's taken away (especially something as awesome as that) and then restored back. I think that if you don't let people perm it, they'll get slightly more discouraged from retconscenioning (new words!).

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Really? I don't see it the same way, by far. It doesn't make much sense that software disappears with your computer, especially given the advent of cloud computing coming soon. And...really? Heroic Efficiency is like Organ? I think that's waaaay too far drawn out. Heroic Efficiency is WAY more aweso...

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You can't pass up Heroic Efficiency. And then Meditation, probably. After that, probably one of the lower level attack spells or First Aid.

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Now she's coming back for all of you!

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An effect (maybe from a vial?) to reference the awesomeness that is Darkman. It'll last for 99 minutes and will give +5% strength if it's day, +10% or 15% if it's night and -5% intellect. Or something along those lines.

DARKMAN!

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Yeah, I saw that.

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wtf? Lil' Wayne? Son of a bitch.

Interesting that moot is number 1 though. I find it more awesome than odd.

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Promoting your interests is just as guilty as saying "I'm trading X for Y". Think about it. What does "promoting your interests" lead to? Trades. What ELSE could they lead to? Even then, there's still that hint of trading in there. And yes, it is wrong, because then other people ...

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FIRST POST.

Yay, not-so-grindy quest.

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Just remember, we don't condone trading on the forums. Things get messy.

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I wouldn't be talking if I were you, Satan. I mean, really.

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It said a "Gift for PvPers". I was totally like "WUT!?".

Nice way of clubbing all the guys, I bet. >.>

So are you going to return to the field eventually? After exams? So that you keep climbing and stuff.

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The MMG of KoL, minus the house cut, isn't really a meatsink. It's a meatsink for one player, but it's a huge boon to the other. Then again, that's between two players.

Nice job, Muhandes. Fancy little pill indeed.

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Well, if you lose, there's a chance to gain/lose XP. Among other stuff.

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Hehe. Yeah, totally not what I was expecting.

So you got tired of it? Or what?

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San Diego likes to get firestorms. It's really annoying when it happens.

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Not everything has a point. Not everything NEEDS a point.

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I used "ain't". What's NOT Southern about that? But yes, thank god I'm not actually Southern. No offense, yet again. It's that stereotypical image of a Southerner that irks me...No hate on Louisiana though, CS.

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All yous north'ners and your snow! Down in the south we ain't got any layers or somesuch. Not even rain!

(That is, for San Diego.

)

(Yes, I realize that was not COMPLETELY Southern either. I apologize for anyone who is offended.)

(Or am I?)

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Autumn rules, Spring drools.

No, seriously. Spring is like the time of diseases. And since it's always nice out and crap, doesn't it give you images of like...zombies out in daylight?

Or something.

Autumn has nice temperatures. For me, at least. And it goes into Winter break!

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Uh, that's not necessarily true. It's RPS. 1/2 of a chance. etc.

I think the messages are meant to throw you off though. Which makes sense.

EDIT: teh mathz iz suckz0rz.

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Hey Ryme, are you planning on putting in exact numbers in the effects?

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Yeah, I think I agree with Satan. They definitely are not the same. It's like having an extra 2% over, for example, 100 turns, and no 2% for 104 turns. All of that can add up. We can only do the proper optimization once we have the base chip/item drops and whatever else.

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There's always an optimal point between turns and items/chips/whatever. It's really just about hitting that point.

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