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... actually healthy for the in-game economy. This isn't a question about farming. This is more "pretend you're level X and told to go to the castle for a quest. What level is appropriate?" There will eventually be several post-Mick quests that continue the story. I want to space them ...

I recently tried as a Naturalists at lvl 16, with a bunch of +pp/hit so I could use Charge and Trample as my normal attacks. It was doable, but not easy. Permed skill list was: Proper hydration (0) Stone Armor (~8) Advanced Martial Arts (don't remember level, but didn't seem to add to melee damage, ...

It's not about farming at a profit as it's more about survivability. Then that's not really a question. I could use recognizer bots and eventually kill shit from the start of a retcon. I guess my post was vague, but I'm looking at feasible killing with weapons and not having to restore shit constan...

Cristiona

It's not about farming at a profit as it's more about survivability.

I guess there's a difference between the zone being doable at a level and being profitable at a level. If you're looking to create a farming zone for the lazy post-recton, then I'd say it's really not serving that purpose. If you're looking for an incentive to stay in after-recton/additional content...

I'd say level 20, at least thats when i think back then things got doable for me, haven't been there below that for a long long time so can't say much more.... No offense, but I'm going to take comments like, "It was X way back before lots of things changed" with a much bigger grain of sa...

Patojonas

I'd say level 20, at least thats when i think back then things got doable for me, haven't been there below that for a long long time so can't say much more....

blackmatter615

... jsut means you end up in the higher end of the range for survavability. Im actually level 15 now, trying to get to the point where I can take the castle with farming gear, so I may come back and repost in a bit. Im a level 15 psion, with an absurb number of skills permed, and 12+ skills at full ...

I've only been there during one run at level 15. As a level 15 Gadgeteer, w/ Umbra's but no items of the month, I found it very difficult, but not impossible. WIth good luck and planning, I probably could have continued to adventure there, but this was towards the end of a run and I had other goals....

... would say 15-20, depending on player's knowlege about game and possessed items. From my own experience I can say that during my first run going to Castle below 20 was hard. But now with all the skills permed, huge collection of items and deeper understanding of mechanics it was easily doable right ...

Lxndr

Yep, the Castle opens at fifteen. Depends on the skills you have, I'd say. But I'd put it at 15 at the lowest - and at fifteen (WITH items of the month) I felt underpowered. I'm collecting skills right now, so I'm not going much ...

zyborg

I think it is about level 16. I've been winning more than I've been losing at level 15, in both my first run and my first RETCON run, but it still seemed like I was underleveled.

Strlikecrazy

I'm sure the castle doesn't open untill level 15... so i don't know what the level 10 quote is about! I have a multi I farm at the castle. As just a Psion - no retcons, no fancy gear - it was possible to win and beat the foes there ...

Apparently I need to survey the general audience, because I'm getting a wide range of answers. When it came out, I heard it's suited for about level 25 players. I've since heard 20, 16, and got one "it's survivable at level 10 if you're strategic enough." I'd like to have a bit more consen...

... any of your hard fought goods from either your mains or your multitude of multis just send them Tinfizzle's way. I've been working the Castle with him and already have at least one star's worth of chips ready to roll for February and will start working up a theme for it pretty soon. ...

blackmatter615

... you buy them. Bottom Line: Retcon has made this game more fun, and has added a lot more variety to how I play it other than chip grinding at the castle to buy stars in the hopes of getting enough to get that month's IotM. Nocturne's items are sweet, and the current regime is perfect. Those blue ...

Yeah, little bug there. Apparently I missed all the range 5 zones. Fixed the castle when it was reported the other day, but didn't realize at the time from the report that the ranch was also affected. Will fix soon.

... noticed that there isnt alot of reliable access to sugar at lower levels beyond gumballs and this might be a way to fill the gaps until Rooftops/Castle Hundenswein 2] How about a Rocketeer style helmet that gets extra effects while wearing the jetpack in addition to looking absolutely awesome? ...

blackmatter615

... shoes, binoculars, citrine ion stone, recycler's bin, your choice of range 5 transportation, clockwork kangaroo sidekick. Adventure in the castle. get 6-7 lustrous liquids a day and use them to make philtres of fortunes, then fight the chemist after that. Always leave the store room emptyhanded. ...

... what's some good equipment for my level range? And for later, what's a good farming outfit? I've heard item-drop is more valuable than chip-drop. (Castle Hundenswein?) Thanks!

Harry Dresden

... just getting components streamlined, and putting in parts that will be expanded, Aldente. [N] blackmatter615 : are the nci live building and the castle eventually going to have associated quests? [N] Ryme : Castle was always meant to have a quest, but that'll probably be outside the scope of ...

... allows for the spawning of sidekicks. Heroes can spawn 2 each (we'll say you need to own (if you're Rand and/or Susan) your respective zones; Castle Hundenswein as an Ele, the Robotics club as a Gadgeteer, Triassic Park as a Natural and as a Psion....ummm) and pay a finders' fee. The Mick ...

... have one or two of those. I suppose there could also be a lake in the mountains for a water breathing adventure too. "While flying around the castle you notice a strange nest/plant high up on one of the cliffs. care to investigate?" That gives me a great idea for a transportation. How ...

seventhcross

... have one or two of those. I suppose there could also be a lake in the mountains for a water breathing adventure too. "While flying around the castle you notice a strange nest/plant high up on one of the cliffs. care to investigate?"

... did... but there are people who did buy them that are nice enough to provide TNT in exchange for the raw materials. And, as for farming the castle.... I strongly recommend using the race car driver, to leave more slots available for +noncom/+chips/+items (and fighting the chemist almost ...

Muhandes wrote: (apparently, due to some unknown rule of nature, the castle is ALWAYS the best farming place, no matter what game you play)

Two possibilities here: either all the games are secretly just one game, or the castle is where the treasure is.

*shrugs*

Muhandes

... Returning to the OP's question, it is still better to adventure in the cube and autosell/sell or recyclonize and sell, than in the casino, and the castle is even better (apparently, due to some unknown rule of nature, the castle is ALWAYS the best farming place, no matter what game you play)

Ahem. The question was about chips, NOT autosell.

For items, yes, the castle is the obvious choice. That wasn't the question. (Also, I tend to take donation gear as a given.)

blackmatter615

... pretty good... assuming you can maximize both +chips and +noncombat (which is doable) it's appeared to have a better noncombat rate than the castle... As someone who recently was farming in the casino with those two things as maxed out as I could make it (non combat was maxed, got everything ...

Patojonas

... fighting in the Crypts at level 50, since it's a constant use of firestorm and lifeblood) while turns spent in lower-level areas (like farming the castle, pegasus hunting, etc) can generate insane amounts of PP that are otherwise wasted. And of course, they'd probably end up being insanely overpriced ...

... fighting in the Crypts at level 50, since it's a constant use of firestorm and lifeblood) while turns spent in lower-level areas (like farming the castle, pegasus hunting, etc) can generate insane amounts of PP that are otherwise wasted. And of course, they'd probably end up being insanely overpriced ...

Satan

Unless +chips from sidekicks can now affect the casino jackpots, castle is definitely better. You can get over 100k in chips alone with optimal gear and a bit of IotM gear (granted, the judo gloves are vital to this strategy). But I suppose, if you maxed ...

... pretty good... assuming you can maximize both +chips and +noncombat (which is doable) it's appeared to have a better noncombat rate than the castle... and the cube noncombat really doesn't provide chips, unless you count the (agonizingly small) chance of getting the disc, which you can sell ...

Avenger

Cube is good for people in the 15 - 25 level range.

But the Castle is the best farming place, as far as I'm concerned.

Great chip drops and high autosell value items.

Cristiona

Most dedicated farmers either use the Cube or the Castle.

... exception: If the very first encounter is a "timeless one", then the number of turns to adventure is multiplied with 10. So going to the castle, getting a "Behind Door Number Three ..." , typing in 40, clicking start makers the script try to adventure 400 times. Kinda avoidable ...

Also, I've modified the script to not decrement the turns counter on adventures which don't use any time. This makes farming the castle (mainly, but there are other locations) more IOU-friendly, as you can get an accurate number of adventures run. Works fine so far, with one exception: ...

... fight, but...) Also, I've modified the script to not decrement the turns counter on adventures which don't use any time. This makes farming the castle (mainly, but there are other locations) more IOU-friendly, as you can get an accurate number of adventures run. Lastly... I've updated my userscripts.org ...

... + Threeinforced cap = Defender of the Crown -extra hp Description: This heavily reinforced helmet is so thick it feels like you're wearing a castle. Thugs will be hard-pressed to break through without a catapult or two. using 'crown' to mean head, it's also the name of an old computer game

AldenteVonTino

... You decide to go find another window. Preferably one without any smart-talking scientists on the other side. You wind your way far around the castle, up the side of the mountain and back down, until another accessible window catches your eye. Or more properly, the silvery glow coming from ...

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