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Should Nocturne items be free pulls?
Yes 33%  33%  [ 2 ]
Hell yes 67%  67%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:01 pm 
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This is why I don't do petitions. Things are getting unnecessarily heated, and it's not changing anything in the forseeable future. Locking thread.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:06 pm 
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Satan wrote:
Personally I don't think they're all that powerful in terms of a retcon run (and that /is/ how I'm viewing them, as they're retcon rewards).
You're pretty much the only one to feel that way.

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If you disagree with my opinion, that's fine, but there's no definitive this is right or this is wrong in this situation.
Wrong.

Opinions aren't some magical construct that are immune to cold, harsh reality. It could be your opinion that the sun revolves around the earth, or your opinion that dinosaurs were wiped out by time traveling aliens, but you'd be wrong. Instead of hiding behind opinion like it's some kind of shield, how about you back it up with something?

Here, I'll even give you a start:

In a run where you're using ranged weapons, what non-donation hat is better than Mecha Nist's helmet for general retcon use?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:04 pm 
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As much as it pains me to agree with Satan... I totally get where he's coming from on this. In retcon terms, the 'high-level' equipment is largely useless because of the level requirements, the lower level items might be useful for a level or two.
Yes, the Murk's shirt is sweet if you have enough other sources of -time such that xent isn't needed. Archon's staff/hammer time/Zeno's bow is usually better than the nocturne weapons, though.

It doesn't really affect me either way... I can't understand anyone choosing runs with item restrictions. But I can understand thinking the store items aren't all that some seem to be making them out to be. Now, if they were all shoes...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:11 pm 
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Doc Igor wrote:
Now, if they were all shoes...
I tried to make shoes, but Ryme wouldn't let me. :(

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