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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:42 pm

I assumed I was implying it was the intended side effect of -foe toughness. It makes sense. You're fighting a weaker enemy, so you should get less xp. The only reason you don't if it's activated mid-fight is because ryme's too lazy to recalculate it/parts of the fight were fought at different levels, so he just keeps the starting value.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Cristiona » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:47 pm

Setting aside the inability of people to understand the word "intended" for a moment...

Is the mask of Odysseus's initiative override set to interact properly with scaling monsters? I have never had it kick in while adventuring in S7G. I realize that RNG is a factor, but when I lose initiative 6 times in a row and it never triggers, that makes me curious, especially considering its supposed rate of fire.
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:30 pm

You should learn to phrase your questions better. If you were indeed meaning to ask 'Is -foe toughness supposed to be on the vambraces?'. Instead of is that the intended side-effect, without specifying the subject (and then adding stuff to make me think you're talking about foe toughness with the KoL comment). That aside, I'm pretty sure that's what Ryme meant it to be.

As for the second subject, I'm pretty sure it's already been reported by Muhandes and confirmed by Ryme that it would not interact with scaling monsters. I don't recall if he said he was going to fix it.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:54 pm

Yes, foe toughness modifiers on equipment work as intended, just as Zillow noted in the beginning. It's on record in at least a couple of places, pretty sure in at least one forum thread. Things that are in effect at the start of the fight adjust both toughness and XP. Things used later (in most cases) just affect toughness but not XP. There may be an exception to the latter -- one of the throwing stars, maybe?

Mask and initiative: unintentional. Scaling foes don't use the same general code as non-scaling, and I keep forgetting to update the multitude of scaling foes to adapt to the mask's effect (and, probably, to the fight club?)

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:59 am

Ryme wrote:Mask and initiative: unintentional. Scaling foes don't use the same general code as non-scaling, and I keep forgetting to update the multitude of scaling foes to adapt to the mask's effect (and, probably, to the fight club?)

Just to make this clear to me, this is a bug, and supposedly will be corrected one day, correct?

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:28 am

It's an unintentional omission that I keep forgetting to de-omit. May be semantics, but I don't call that a bug, really. Odds of it getting fixed someday are good.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:49 pm

Hmmm. You were able to adventure at the porcelain bay as a psion without the harbor pearl/rental equipment? Definitely a bug.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:55 pm

His main is several months old. I'm assuming he has an alt that is an Elemental and went to the Bay, and he didn't realize it was part of that class to breathe underwater without the pearl.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:52 am

Found out today that transmogrifying was removing the Nostronomically Hardened skill. It should not have been doing that.

If you once had the skill and have lost it due to transmogrifying, please post here, and when I get a couple of days worth of IDs I'll do a batch reinstatement.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:20 am

I'm pretty sure you can find out by querying quest data (search for those who've gone that far in the quest) and joining it with the skill's obtained table (search for people who don't have the skill), then just run through those accounts and give them back the skill.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby AldenteVonTino » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:39 am

Has my character been looked at yet regarding my talisman?
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:39 am

The starting talisman problem was found and fixed by Ryme a week or so ago. It happened on so many accounts, though, that I don't know if he has a quick way to give the correct talismans. Or if he plans to. Most people don't keep that talisman equipped for more than a few days, anyway.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:21 am

Yeah. The problem will be fixed when you transmog, or (depending on how Ryme does it) when retconscension rolls out, so he'll probably allow you to be broken until then.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby AldenteVonTino » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:40 pm

So it was written, so it shall be done.
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:49 am

Critical messages on ranged weapons don't have special text for when just hit once. This gives rise to the following sentence:

Buddy, you annihilated your opponent. And not just once, but 1 times for a jaw dropping 40 damage.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:08 am

Shoot, missed that. Critical hits aren't supposed to reference the number of times, because they're not quite calculated like that.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Cristiona » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:52 am

Not so much a bug, but a "is this intentional?" Time spent in the VR center doesn't seem to count for the pre-vandalism radio.
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:28 am

Ryme wrote:Things that are in effect at the start of the fight adjust both toughness and XP. Things used later (in most cases) just affect toughness but not XP. There may be an exception to the latter -- one of the throwing stars, maybe?

Indeed Red Dwarf is an exception and it does adjust XP. Is it the only exception? I'm asking mainly so I know if I should report other incidents if I ever find any.
Also, Red Dwarf works on scaling foes, and it is "common knowledge" that foe toughness does not affect scaling foes. Is the "common knowlege" wrong, or is it again a single exception? And if so is it intentional?

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:48 pm

Muhandes wrote:Indeed Red Dwarf is an exception and it does adjust XP. Is it the only exception? I'm asking mainly so I know if I should report other incidents if I ever find any.


I don't know. I think so, but I'm not sure.


Muhandes wrote:it is "common knowledge" that foe toughness does not affect scaling foes.


That's not right. Foe toughness measures at the start of a fight don't affect foes. Anything applied in combat would affect them just like anyone else. In other words, the scaling overrides normal initial calculations, but once the foe numbers are set, all subsequent changes apply normally.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:40 pm

Ryme wrote:
Muhandes wrote:it is "common knowledge" that foe toughness does not affect scaling foes.


That's not right. Foe toughness measures at the start of a fight don't affect foes. Anything applied in combat would affect them just like anyone else. In other words, the scaling overrides normal initial calculations, but once the foe numbers are set, all subsequent changes apply normally.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby zillow » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:46 pm

I had a last adventure in the insanity and I went to the cube theater and my first adventure I got one of the wandering foes and it registered as in the insanity even though I went to the cube.
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:49 pm

zillow wrote:I had a last adventure in the insanity and I went to the cube theater and my first adventure I got one of the wandering foes and it registered as in the insanity even though I went to the cube.


You didn't actually make it to the cube. You got accosted on the way there. That's not just narrative, I don't have a way to do wandering villains and also track your "I want to go somewhere else" at the same time, so that is one consequence of the addition.

For what it's worth, other similar interruptions (April fools, for instance) do the exact same thing, and all of them like this probably always will.

For the same reason, the voodoo doll also does this. You repeat the fight and don't actually go to a new zone, even if you click somewhere else.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:39 am

(Err, you totally have a way to do that, when you click the zone it sends the zone id, right? Just check it before you do the wandering villain thing.)

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:28 am

Sure, I'm just lying about it because I'm lazy. :roll:

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Satan » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:16 pm

Well no. I'm just saying. Based on the fundamental workings of php and the $_GET super variable, if they click that page and send that value, it should be available to you anywhere on that page.

On an unrelated note, one of the wandering villain items shows up as 0 units on recycler, so I assume several of them do (I only have 1).

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:27 pm

Yeah, it's true, there are ways I can work around it. But the wandering villain "location" gets triggered and overrides the clicked location. Yes, I can pass it over to some other variable, and then I can build some sort of functionality to replace what normally occurs on all the other pages. It's not a single number, though, it's a whole bunch of stuff. Adventure again link. Link for the parent location. Thing that's saved so that it remembers where you last were when you log in. A couple of other things, I think. So I *can* put all that together eventually but it's not anywhere near as simple as you seem to be implying.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:55 am

Maybe it was intended....but after the SQUID disk change of not needing to wear the players, I'm now able to use the SQUID disks at level 1.

Also, Heather...Toa of the Dow is 10xp/level, but Coping With Failure (the only other one I have) gave me a full 107xp at level 1.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Cristiona » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:48 pm

I think the combat texts might have broken the Fighting Club's special attacks.
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:59 am

Harry Dresden wrote:Maybe it was intended....but after the SQUID disk change of not needing to wear the players, I'm now able to use the SQUID disks at level 1.

Also, Heather...Toa of the Dow is 10xp/level, but Coping With Failure (the only other one I have) gave me a full 107xp at level 1.

I don't know if it was intentional either.

However, coping with Failure was never level dependent. Tao of the Dow was.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:36 am

Ryme fixed the SQUID disk thing. The disks themselves now have level requirements.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:40 am

Getting a villain in the Dank and Rusty maze kicks you out of the maze with "??Where Am I??"

Edit: removed bug which was fixed
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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:34 am

Just realized that I lost the Precompletion Pro skill when I transmogrified a few days ago.

Also, still don't have Nostronomically Hardened back from when it was lost after a transmog.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:36 am

I noticed this on "Big Earl", but I'm pretty sure he isn't the only one.

The hit messages says: Earl lights a cigar, takes a few puffs, and then puts it out on your arm. (fire) He hits you for 38 damage.

I think it was marked to do fire damage, but it does regular damage.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:51 am

The image for Raskolnikov's fur hat has a thin border on 3 sides

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Ryme » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:02 pm

Race car driver sidekick now responds to things that improve the usefulness of sidekicks.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Muhandes » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:34 am

Ryme wrote:Race car driver sidekick now responds to things that improve the usefulness of sidekicks.

Good move, thank you.

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Re: Minor bugs

Postby Harry Dresden » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:14 am

Holiday wreath (regifted) is saying it's not yet implemented when I try to use it.

Probably still working on it, but wanted to report it just in case.


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