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 Post subject: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:04 pm 
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As everyone should notice rather quickly, I upgraded the forums. I'm struggling mightily in the first few minutes just sorting out icons and such, but I'm gonna give it a few days and see what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:05 pm 
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Oh: what I forgot to say was, if anyone sees anything that looks broken or abusable, please let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:56 pm 
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Cool!

I was quite confused for a minute >.>

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:09 pm 
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I kinda wish we could get the old skin back, since this one's the same as I use on SR and it makes it hard to tell with just a glance which forum I'm on now >.>


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:14 pm 
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Satan wrote:
I kinda wish we could get the old skin back, since this one's the same as I use on SR and it makes it hard to tell with just a glance which forum I'm on now >.>
I kinda wish we had a different one just because this one's too blue and cheery. :/
Also, look into the "avatars to the left side" plugin, maybe?

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:35 pm 
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Is that a little better? It's not quite what we had before, but it's a bit closer.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Jolly good, ol' chap.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:40 pm 
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Yeah, I like it. It's easier on the eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:41 pm 
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Sexy.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:53 pm 
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Does this mean we can use CAPTCHA and such so you don't need to personally approve accounts any more?

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:57 pm 
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Probably not. I got my first spambot account literally two minutes after upgrading the forums, and I've gotten two more in the last hour. Spambots know how to beat this stuff. I think we're still going to get ~50 junk accounts a day, unfortunately.

On the bright side I've done a much better job of modifying the confirmation page on the forums and the activation email to make it clearer for people what they need to do, and I've got a pretty good system for activations. I only get a couple per week, so I can handle it easily. For now.

Edited to add: I'll keep testing for a day with the captcha, but at this rate I'm inclined to just turn it off, since it's not helping much.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:08 pm 
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Are there any more successful alternatives out there we should look into? I've seen signups that have a text box and some extremely easy question which I imagine changes for every signup. I imagine that would be extremely effective...

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:16 pm 
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Or a different type of CAPTCHA.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:19 pm 
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You could try xkcd's approach: http://xkcd.com/233/

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:20 pm 
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Grr. Gotta get used to links not opening in a new window...

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Hm. I always middle-click links anyway. It's much easier.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Work browser is set to force things that would open new windows to open in new tabs, so I've gotten lazy about it.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:50 pm 
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For some reason, it looks like you have a different captcha running than both I and Soul Raver have (the only phpbb3's I knew off the top of my head). After checking, under "Visual confirmation settings", there's "GD CAPTCHA", which is supposedly better. Or, if you want to be fancy, there's Asirra, though I've still yet to find an easy way to stick it in phpbb.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Ryme, do what I did, and delete all the [Bot] users. They're a two-edged sword really.

This style is pretty sweet.
This style is more... "black" though.

Whatever, you can see more styles here, Ryme.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:08 pm 
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No, I'd rather keep them to know who all my users are, if they are users.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:12 pm 
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MagiNinjA wrote:
No, I'd rather keep them to know who all my users are, if they are users.

Huh?

Well, if you just want to hide them from the "Who's Online" list:

1. Open includes/functions.php, find this:
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if (($row['session_viewonline']) || $auth->acl_get('u_viewonline'))

2. and replace with this:
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if (($row['session_viewonline'] || $auth->acl_get('u_viewonline')) && $row['user_type'] <> USER_IGNORE)


After this change only administrators will use bots in list of online users, other users won't see them.

Oh, also, I'd also do the following:
1. Turn off the attachment function (unless you want your server space to fill up rapidly)
2. Increase the posts-per-page limit.
3. Prune all 0-post users.

...but that's just me.


Corrupt Shadow will now shut up.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:18 pm 
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Re: Styles

I don't mind having a zillion styles added, as long as the defaults are always available. Many style creators seem to try and make things as busy as possible (just like FF skin makers), and 99% of them give me a searing headache after about 10 seconds because they have no concept of color matching or understanding that "cool" and "easy on the eyes" frequently don't play well together. I may not like the defaults, but they're bearable.

Personally, the more minimalist the better as far as I'm concerned.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:46 am 
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I love it! It's wonderful! Thank you so much! Huge improvement, mostly because the latest-unread-post-link works properly, plus I don't get dust all over my pc from the ancient phpbb2.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Hannahmaus wrote:
...mostly because the latest-unread-post-link works properly...

It worked properly for me on the old phpBB2.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Cristiona wrote:
Does this mean we can use CAPTCHA and such so you don't need to personally approve accounts any more?


Just to follow up, 35 spambots in 24 hours. That's basically just as bad as it was before. I'm going to go ahead and turn off the captcha, since it's no obstacle for bots, but it's a pain for people.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Really, Bamse? My SR forums, which have little activity at all, just started getting tons of spam accounts about a week ago as well, where before there were none. Maybe it does have something to do with the hacking.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Corrupt Shadow wrote:
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...mostly because the latest-unread-post-link works properly...

It worked properly for me on the old phpBB2.


Ah then it must just have been me, and Chineselegolas (with the same problem on 2 other forums), and the people who wrote the phpBB2 mod that fixes the problem.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:32 am 
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They seem to be mobile-device friendly. Automatically resized itself when I took a look on my phone.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Hannahmaus wrote:
Ah then it must just have been me, and Chineselegolas (with the same problem on 2 other forums), and the people who wrote the phpBB2 mod that fixes the problem.

Yay for sarcasm. All I saying is that it worked for me. Used it all the time. [sarcasm] But I guess there's just NO possible way it doesn't affect EVERYONE! [/sarcasm]

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:25 am 
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Easy there buddy. I think the bug affected a large number of players. It may not have affected you, but everyone else is happy. Let them be happy.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Corrupt Shadow will now shut up.

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 Post subject: Re: New forums
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Corrupt Shadow wrote:

1. Open includes/functions.php, find this:
Code:
if (($row['session_viewonline']) || $auth->acl_get('u_viewonline'))

2. and replace with this:
Code:
if (($row['session_viewonline'] || $auth->acl_get('u_viewonline')) && $row['user_type'] <> USER_IGNORE)


After this change only administrators will use bots in list of online users, other users won't see them.



Weirdly, the line you give (which shows up in online tutorials, too) doesn't exist on that page.


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 Post subject: Re: New forums
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Hmm, that is weird. I'm pretty sure that's what I did. :?

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