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I got to say I really like the Feb IotM, (i managed to get two )

I was just wondering if any more items would be added, to the ones already in place? And if there would be a semi-rare buff item, that only drops very infrequently?

Anyway great item Ryme...

I like the idea too. Original and fresh. Too bad i cant get one

After I bought one, I decided to buy another. Those things are fun and kind of useful. If anyone loses the keys to their Asp Evader or plays as a feline-themed hero and wants a sock to play with, I can rummage around and find one that'll work.

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Fortunately, Twilight has none of them.
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While you're at it, why not fish out some souls for my collection, doom :p

I seem to get more socks and keys than souls, for some reason. I'm glad to see how much revenge I'm taking on all those washing machines, though.

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Fortunately, Twilight has none of them.
(Think "Dominator", only more doom)

i will collect the phone then, was'nt much choice left...

Hooray for the dump out command! It makes me happy =)

So yeah, this item sucks cause of limited crappy buffs that it gives as opposed to the nice equips from the past three months.



From what I've seen it's not all that great, why would the rest be any different? I highly doubt that once the blanks for this item are filled will make it worth getting.

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But, Smoot, unlike those other items of the month, it doesn't take an equipment slot that can be used for something else (or the damn Roderick's which takes TWO! No big deal now, but when theres better gloves and boots out there my Rod's will start gathering dust). It's like a Tome, that can be resold later, and that can be used in multiples. And if I recall, you thought that the Tome was filled with awesomeness, Smoot, despite the fact that it provided only 60 turns of non-stacking buffs each day. Now if you want to debate whether these buffs are of an equivalent power, that's one thing, but right now, you seem to be contradicting your own previous ideals as to what an IotM should provide just for the sake of making a stink.
Personally, I think there's unspaded effects. It seems I've gotten more xp in a days adventures with the toasty heart effect. That could just be some additional luck with non-combats, but its been above average all month when I've been paying attention.
Now if what has been discovered is the entirety of the item's powers, I'd agree with you, that it's certainly lacking in awesome. I mean, 25% psychic resistance? Who cares? I can beat things through the dimensional gate at level 5 without it, and that's the largest repository of Psychic creatures in the game. But Ryme's shown a pretty decent sense for both what players want and game balance so far. I'm gonna assume that the item is either better than you imagine, or he'll remedy the situation before the end of the month. Either way, he coded it so that you could dump out the pouch on my request, and that earns him a point in my book.

This item is no where near the Tome where all the items from it were great. It seems like this is just an even crappier mayflower bouquet, y'know where it shits out those godawful flowers where the only one useful is the half-orchid. I'm betting that this IotM is going to fall along those lines where one of the unspaded items are going to be really good but not enough to be worth getting. Otherwise it'll just be as horrible as the Yuletide Troll carols.

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More like "From what I've seen so far, I'm not impressed and am amazed that's it somehow a donation item. The remaining effects that aren't spaded yet won't sway my decision no matter how good/bad they are and will not be any useful unless someone likes to have horrible items."

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This entire issue is actually very simple, and can be broken down into two possibilities.

If you are a heart, or appreciate heart-y actions, then you will appreciate the item and not feel compelled to complain about its usefulness & question its justification as a donation item.
If you are not a heart, then this item is not for you.

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Again, if you judge people, that would make sense.

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I disagree. It's a spader's toy, and helps me with diamonding. There's not really any club potential there, except that I can mock those who don't have one.

But I can't really convince anyone I'm not a heart, can I?

Okay, let's eliminate suits from the equation.

If you're the type of person who wishes they could offer more buffs to other players (especially new players who would greatly benefit from HP/turn), then this item is for you. If you're more interested in a single player game, are high enough level that HP/turn (or PP/turn, or 5% ice resistance, etc) aren't that helpful, and you already have a Hero's Cape (so 5% item drops can be handled by a Seventh of Nine), then this item isn't especially useful.

However, think about the player who doesn't have a Cape. Currently, there is only one accessory that gives item drops (the aforementioned 7th of 9), and you can only wear one. 5% isn't a huge boost, but it's 5% more than you would have had. Furthermore, once you're done with your turns, you can dump out the pouch and either sell the items in the AH, or use them on yourself for a minor boost. After rollover, you have your 5% again.

Even fighting in the Pit as a level 50 character, I find a use for the buffs. I'm also shocked that you're sneering at the PP regen, especially considering how much you complain about healing in the Pit. And, the remote control would severely cut into the number of turns you "waste" resting in your hideout.

But, perhaps, all this is utterly worthless to you. That doesn't make the item "bad", it makes it non-useful for you and your play style. If it's this unlikable, just don't buy it. Save your ten bucks and see what rolls around in March.

Personally, I quite enjoy it. I don't need the 5% item drops, as I have a cape. I do like some of the buffs, though. The ones I don't need, I give to newer players, especially the one from the lost sock. I don't need extra damage; I do more than enough on my own. However, a low level character would find such a thing highly useful. Furthermore, giving little buffs like this to new players creates a more friendly environment, and makes new players more likely to stick around. I'm not a Naturalist; I don't have a dozen or so buffs that people would die for. All I can offer is Metal Detector. Sure, it's useful, but I wager a level 2 would rather have 10 or so bonus damage or HP regen.

But, I like helping out other players. Call me a heart, or call me helpful. It's not a matter of pigeonholing someone, it's a matter of my general and personal attitude towards the larger player base. You, clearly, don't share my feelings. That's fine; I'm not calling you a bad person. I just want you to understand that there's a difference between objective and subjective realities.

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I hereby take back defending smoot...

Ryme says: remember, no name calling.

Corrupt Shadow replies: Roger, roger...

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No the fact it's worthless means that it's both non useful and bad. And you can rest assured that I won't be picking one these things up ever.

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Sigh.

I show you exactly how it can be useful, but you continue to pretend that your opinion is the only valid one. I don't even know why I bother.

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The churches are empty / The priest has gone home / And we are left standing / Together alone
--October Project: "Dark Time"

Honstly, I think it may be better for the forums as a whole if nobody did bother. Smoot *knows* how to phrase socially appropriate and logically valid statements--and he does on occasion--but he chooses not to about half of the time, for whatever reason.

Arguing with him causes whole pages to be filled with repetitions of those nonconstructive arguments. Leaving the first post alone causes the thread to be 2% stuff I can't do anything with (a single post from Smoot) and 98% stuff I *can* do something with (every other post). I'm okay with someone being wildly unhelpful once, but pages of the same thing gets painful.

So maybe the discussion is mostly closed or whatever and I'm new here, hi, but I wanted to put my thoughts down.

None of the other items so far really interested me at all, because they're just really good equips, sure. But all that does, to me, is take up a slot in my equipment near permanently instead of being able to use other things in the game, which I might find funny or might just be close to as useful or whatever.
Now this opened up a new mechanic to me, and while it may not be the most complicated of things, that made me take notice. I get this cool ability to give more unique buffs to people and get a little something back in return for doing something I'd probably do anyway. That's completely awesome to me. The fact that these buffs, as small or as large as they may be, could help me out in a pinch as well as the pouch itself being a good farming equip (I believe. From what I've seen, 5% is pretty big in this game) is just a really nice bonus on top of that for me, although one I'll certainly take advantage of.
The point is, this gives me something I couldn't do before, slightly outside of the normal mechanics. I like that. That's what I donate for. I understand that there is always going to be a group of people who could care less about that sort of thing, but I'm not one of them, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Anyway, there's my rant.

I'm trying to find a way to donate before the end of this month, because this is actually a pretty awesome item.

Poetfox: I definitely find it useful knowing what people like or dislike about items, and what makes them feel something is worth donating for. It can be really tough sometimes trying to figure out whether the things I'm throwing in there are actually appealing or not. For instance, I debated whether the Toasty Heart effect was basically just fluff, since people would use the items anyway and wouldn't care about a small bonus, or whether it was a nice touch. I'm sure there are people in both camps, of course, but it's good to have insight.

Well I still haven't been able to donate, but I've seen quite a bit of this item, and I thought I'd give my two cents. I have to be honest, I was a little disappointed when I found out the "items" were only out of combat usable and not, for instance, combat items. But as the effects of said items started to get spaded out, I'm starting to realize how great the item is. Keep up the good work!

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For what it's worth, I wouldn't donate for the cape or the Roderick stuff, but would (if I effin' could) for the Pouch and Aegis Flux, which both add new mechanics to the game. Some form of change to the gameplay is what I'd be interested in, rather than simply a powerful item.

Powerful items aren't fun? Why not?

The Aegis would fit under your definition of "don't donate" as well...

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The charge thing.

I like powerful items, but really like the fun ones, that change things around a bit, and help avoid monotony.