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when you switch classes, do you lose all the stat points gained through the virtual gaming center?

Yes

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Just about everything goes away, it's pretty much a complete reset of your character.

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TheK3vin- #325

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Er, no. You two are way off base. Neither quests nor things like the VR gaming center reset.

When you change class, your personal stats, xp, skills, and such do reset.

Basically, the short and simple version is: if it's you personally, it's reset. If it's anything else in the outside world, it doesn't reset.

I think the OP meant the Strengh, Intellect, and Reflex points gained from the VR center. For example, if they did stay, and I had gained 10 strength points from there, upon switching classes, I would have (The normal starting amount )+10 Strength. This is currently no the case.

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Well, I've got a hat!

Whoops, heh forgot about the whole discussion we had about that a while back... So yeah. Quests don't reset. Not sure about the VR thing though. I'm also not sure why I'm even posting here. Ok, goodbye.

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TheK3vin- #325

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Oh. If you mean xp or str/int/ref, yeah, you lose those. Skills you lose (except for the passable pilot one). If you mean your rank in the games, or any items you may have gained, then no. Sorry if that's confusing.

In other words, you can never get back those extra stats you get for doing the VR games.

Ever.

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TheK3vin- #325

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Wait, you keep your skills?

So, in essence, one could obtain EVERY skill in the game?!

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I've won the 100k DD bet so many times, I should have the title "Mr. Luck"

Ya, much like KoL

Man, if I'd known that!

I thought you only kept items/chips.

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I've won the 100k DD bet so many times, I should have the title "Mr. Luck"

I think Ryme was pretty clear that skills reset. Has anyone actually taken the plunge on the talisman switch?

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Psi Man says: "Just say no."

Really? I heard from someone that did it, he said his skills didnt reset o_o

You do lose all of your previous skills. Like Ryme said, everything about your character resets, but everything else stays the same. You do, however, keep your items.

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TheK3vin- #325

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You lose all your class skills.

You keep all your non-class skills (currently: Passable Pilot and Heroic Efficiency).

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The churches are empty / The priest has gone home / And we are left standing / Together alone
--October Project: "Dark Time"

Oh, well not class-switching for me then.

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I've won the 100k DD bet so many times, I should have the title "Mr. Luck"

I reset from Psi to Gadge.
I lost all skills except Passable Pilot and Heroic Efficiency.
I lost ALL stat points except for basic starting stats.

I played for a while, but when I discovered that you could not redo the quests... especially since I changed to try to get the Navy Wrench.

I went back to Psi.

I cannot see ANY benefit to changing. If I were simply interested in playing another class, I would make multis instead.

I think that there should be SOME benefit to class changing since it is so drastic. Even simply letting a player convert the "quest" class talisman to his/her new class at level X (say level 8 )... or keeping a skill after changing over from a level Y (say level 15) character.

Just now.

There may be a benefit to changing in time.

Well, if you don't want 4 multis and want to explore; or you've got a limited number of donation items and you want to keep using them with different classes; or you're high level and don't have anything "new" to do with that class. At least, that's my assumption about why people might want to change class. It's also there, preemptively, as a protection in case you ascend into the wrong class, which I've done enough in KoL to want to have an option other than to go through a full ascension again.

I haven't done it yet, but I definitely plan to. I'm not particularly interested in stat grinding in general (plus, there's no point to it at all now without leaderboards), and I also want to explore the different mechanics and strengths/weaknesses of the different classes without creating multis.

That said, I do also think that it wouldn't hurt to have some sort of ascension mechanic that allowed you to gain some benefit from resetting your character (how about a simple counter on your profile that shows how many times you've made it to some certain level?).

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As another newb who migrated from KoL, let me say that the inability to transmogrify the second talisman absolutely sucks.

So does the inability to keep a skill, but whatever.

Also, first post.

Keeping skills only applies in an ascension context, where you actually "beat" the game and start over, but with an edge. Without that, being able to keep a skill would be a pretty meaningless event, and in a matter of weeks people would have most of them, and things would get pretty boring.

The second talisman issue is noted, and I'll do something about it one of these days.

The other thing people need to be aware of is that when you change class, you keep your items but you can't use them anymore - at least for a while. When you transmogrify, your level bumps down to 1 so all the gear you have accumulated that requires a higher level to use is stripped from your character and returned to your inventory.

Make sure you have enough chips or low level gear before you transition lest you find yourself walking around Twilight butt naked.

So, if we change classes, what happens to the amount of time left in the evening? The theory of relativity argues that time is based on personal perspective, so would the time of day reset? I'm guessing not...

Also, there's a certain merit badge that's based on something you do, well, sort of internally. If you don't have the merit badge yet, does that reset if you transmogrify?

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-Exercising the freedom to conform since tomorrow

Time stays the same. If you use all your turns and caffeine and then switch, you'll still have 0 turns. If you switch with 200 turns, you'll still have 200 turns.

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The churches are empty / The priest has gone home / And we are left standing / Together alone
--October Project: "Dark Time"